Comments on: DemoCampToronto11 - open to any? http://martin.cleaver.org/blog/2006/11/21/democamptoronto11-open-to-any/ "Ideas are like Raindrops!" Martin on Web 2.0, Wiki, Conceptmapping, Middleware and Organisations Wed, 17 Mar 2010 22:29:09 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=wordpress-mu-1.2.3-2.2.1 By: Fran32Potter http://martin.cleaver.org/blog/2006/11/21/democamptoronto11-open-to-any/#comment-109054 Fran32Potter Sun, 14 Mar 2010 19:30:23 +0000 http://martin.cleaver.org/blog/2006/11/21/democamptoronto11-open-to-any/#comment-109054 According to my exploration, millions of persons on our planet get the <a href="http://lowest-rate-loans.com" rel="nofollow">loan</a> at various creditors. So, there is a good chance to receive a sba loan in every country. According to my exploration, millions of persons on our planet get the loan at various creditors. So, there is a good chance to receive a sba loan in every country.

]]> By: Maple Leaf 2.0 - DemoCamp 11 Disappoints http://martin.cleaver.org/blog/2006/11/21/democamptoronto11-open-to-any/#comment-558 Maple Leaf 2.0 - DemoCamp 11 Disappoints Sat, 23 Dec 2006 13:20:42 +0000 http://martin.cleaver.org/blog/2006/11/21/democamptoronto11-open-to-any/#comment-558 [...] Rohan Jayasekera went to DemoCamp 11 in Toronto last night but came away less than impressed. Of the five presentations, Rohan contends the only one of note was Sunir Shah’s Design Bibliography, a wiki that creates an annotated bibliography and glossary for the design (usuability, systems, information, social) community. For more, check out Martin Cleaver and ITtoolbox Blog. Subscribe to RSS headline updates from: Powered by FeedBurner [...] […] Rohan Jayasekera went to DemoCamp 11 in Toronto last night but came away less than impressed. Of the five presentations, Rohan contends the only one of note was Sunir Shah’s Design Bibliography, a wiki that creates an annotated bibliography and glossary for the design (usuability, systems, information, social) community. For more, check out Martin Cleaver and ITtoolbox Blog. Subscribe to RSS headline updates from: Powered by FeedBurner […]

]]> By: .. http://martin.cleaver.org/blog/2006/11/21/democamptoronto11-open-to-any/#comment-39 .. Wed, 22 Nov 2006 21:26:11 +0000 http://martin.cleaver.org/blog/2006/11/21/democamptoronto11-open-to-any/#comment-39 [...] Martin Cleaver notes: As for what went wrong with DemoCamp - well, for a start, its an open forum. No revenues means no one is paid to ask the qualifying questions up front. Or take the money out of the equation: no one asks the qualifying questions up front. And maybe the questions are insufficient. Maybe they’d need to give a demo in private up front. [...] […] Martin Cleaver notes: As for what went wrong with DemoCamp - well, for a start, its an open forum. No revenues means no one is paid to ask the qualifying questions up front. Or take the money out of the equation: no one asks the qualifying questions up front. And maybe the questions are insufficient. Maybe they’d need to give a demo in private up front. […]

]]> By: Remarkk! » DemoCamp11: Mixed Reviews and a Retooling http://martin.cleaver.org/blog/2006/11/21/democamptoronto11-open-to-any/#comment-37 Remarkk! » DemoCamp11: Mixed Reviews and a Retooling Wed, 22 Nov 2006 04:48:52 +0000 http://martin.cleaver.org/blog/2006/11/21/democamptoronto11-open-to-any/#comment-37 [...] Another month, another DemoCamp. It was good to see some friends I haven’t seen in far too long. Here are some reviews: Rohan, Greg, Martin, Ryan McKegney, [...] […] Another month, another DemoCamp. It was good to see some friends I haven’t seen in far too long. Here are some reviews: Rohan, Greg, Martin, Ryan McKegney, […]

]]> By: Dave Forde http://martin.cleaver.org/blog/2006/11/21/democamptoronto11-open-to-any/#comment-34 Dave Forde Tue, 21 Nov 2006 19:14:29 +0000 http://martin.cleaver.org/blog/2006/11/21/democamptoronto11-open-to-any/#comment-34 Martin - I think a lot of people forget the fact that all these "camps" are free to attend and the organizers don't make any money from doing it. End of the day, don't we get what we pay for? Martin - I think a lot of people forget the fact that all these “camps” are free to attend and the organizers don’t make any money from doing it. End of the day, don’t we get what we pay for?

]]> By: The Third Bit » Blog Archive » DemoCamp 11 http://martin.cleaver.org/blog/2006/11/21/democamptoronto11-open-to-any/#comment-32 The Third Bit » Blog Archive » DemoCamp 11 Tue, 21 Nov 2006 16:57:23 +0000 http://martin.cleaver.org/blog/2006/11/21/democamptoronto11-open-to-any/#comment-32 [...] A handful of early bloggers are calling DemoCamp 11 a “failure”.  I’m not sure why: I thought it had more interesting content than 9 and 10.  The lead-off, AutoSSL, was an interesting idea (auto-provision of SSL certificates to small devices in the home, like security cameras); there was too much slideware, and some technical problems, but I think we should start being more open-minded about the former, and they handled the latter with aplomb. [...] […] A handful of early bloggers are calling DemoCamp 11 a “failure”.  I’m not sure why: I thought it had more interesting content than 9 and 10.  The lead-off, AutoSSL, was an interesting idea (auto-provision of SSL certificates to small devices in the home, like security cameras); there was too much slideware, and some technical problems, but I think we should start being more open-minded about the former, and they handled the latter with aplomb. […]

]]> By: StoryofaStartup.com » Blog Archive » The Un-Jobfair and other DemoCamp thoughts http://martin.cleaver.org/blog/2006/11/21/democamptoronto11-open-to-any/#comment-30 StoryofaStartup.com » Blog Archive » The Un-Jobfair and other DemoCamp thoughts Tue, 21 Nov 2006 16:00:55 +0000 http://martin.cleaver.org/blog/2006/11/21/democamptoronto11-open-to-any/#comment-30 [...] The Un-Jobfair and other DemoCamp thoughts I wasn’t at DemoCamp11 last night.  I was a bit under the weather, it’s been a very busy few weeks and I’ll be honest, the demos as a whole didn’t look that interesting to me.  I read the reviews Rohan and Martin wrote this morning and it appears that it was underwhelming. [...] […] The Un-Jobfair and other DemoCamp thoughts I wasn’t at DemoCamp11 last night.  I was a bit under the weather, it’s been a very busy few weeks and I’ll be honest, the demos as a whole didn’t look that interesting to me.  I read the reviews Rohan and Martin wrote this morning and it appears that it was underwhelming. […]

]]> By: admin http://martin.cleaver.org/blog/2006/11/21/democamptoronto11-open-to-any/#comment-29 admin Tue, 21 Nov 2006 15:51:12 +0000 http://martin.cleaver.org/blog/2006/11/21/democamptoronto11-open-to-any/#comment-29 I think we all expected to be wowed by Firestoker. I was expecting great things, and we saw it neither from the technology (you showed the differences, but you've just reached parity between your two products without showing the magic in your first version) nor from the examples (Tom's 'trouble with yeast' example went down really well with me at the <a href="http://martin.cleaver.org/blog/2006/11/14/my-blogs-and-wikis-talk-at-mcmasters-school-of-business/" rel="nofollow">McMaster talks</a>). You commented something tantamount to 'users need something basic' - but by saying that the audience compared to the blogging platforms. I think you downplayed it more than justified. An online screencam tour might be a good way to get a wider audience's attention. I think we all expected to be wowed by Firestoker.

I was expecting great things, and we saw it neither from the technology (you showed the differences, but you’ve just reached parity between your two products without showing the magic in your first version) nor from the examples (Tom’s ‘trouble with yeast’ example went down really well with me at the McMaster talks).

You commented something tantamount to ‘users need something basic’ - but by saying that the audience compared to the blogging platforms.

I think you downplayed it more than justified. An online screencam tour might be a good way to get a wider audience’s attention.

]]> By: Jevon http://martin.cleaver.org/blog/2006/11/21/democamptoronto11-open-to-any/#comment-28 Jevon Tue, 21 Nov 2006 15:37:24 +0000 http://martin.cleaver.org/blog/2006/11/21/democamptoronto11-open-to-any/#comment-28 Martin, Points well taken, but I can't for the life of me figure out what b5Media would have to do with our business? Martin,

Points well taken, but I can’t for the life of me figure out what b5Media would have to do with our business?

]]> By: socialwrite.com » We came, we demoed… did we? http://martin.cleaver.org/blog/2006/11/21/democamptoronto11-open-to-any/#comment-27 socialwrite.com » We came, we demoed… did we? Tue, 21 Nov 2006 15:36:35 +0000 http://martin.cleaver.org/blog/2006/11/21/democamptoronto11-open-to-any/#comment-27 [...] Comments from Martin,  Rohan Technorati Tags:  # [...] […] Comments from Martin,  Rohan Technorati Tags:  # […]

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