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	<title>Comments on: Considering Cogeco instead of Rogers</title>
	<link>http://martin.cleaver.org/blog/2006/12/30/considering-cogeco-instead-of-rogers/</link>
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		<title>By: Martin Cleaver, masterfully. &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Net Neutrality Canada site: taken down! (Your Internet Service Provider wants to double charge for the internet)</title>
		<link>http://martin.cleaver.org/blog/2006/12/30/considering-cogeco-instead-of-rogers/#comment-7375</link>
		<author>Martin Cleaver, masterfully. &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Net Neutrality Canada site: taken down! (Your Internet Service Provider wants to double charge for the internet)</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Apr 2007 15:46:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Last night I ordered TekSavvy, a DRY DSL replacement for Rogers Cable Internet. Yes, the Bell Sympatico adverts showing me choppy YouTube videos struck home but the reviews I&#8217;ve read show I have no better reason I don&#8217;t trust Bell than I did Rogers. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Last night I ordered TekSavvy, a DRY DSL replacement for Rogers Cable Internet. Yes, the Bell Sympatico adverts showing me choppy YouTube videos struck home but the reviews I&#8217;ve read show I have no better reason I don&#8217;t trust Bell than I did Rogers. [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Rohan Jayasekera</title>
		<link>http://martin.cleaver.org/blog/2006/12/30/considering-cogeco-instead-of-rogers/#comment-1391</link>
		<author>Rohan Jayasekera</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jan 2007 07:30:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://martin.cleaver.org/blog/2006/12/30/considering-cogeco-instead-of-rogers/#comment-1391</guid>
		<description>As Ryan says, cable is a local monopoly - including Internet service.  You are stuck with Rogers on your cable, unless of course you want to move your residence!  The CRTC did rule back in January 1996 that the cable companies had to give ISPs access to the cable, but they've managed to drag their feet for eleven years despite additional rulings by the CRTC.

Speed varies a lot within any one cable system.  Once you've checked your actual speed, you may well find that it's much higher than the number shown at DSLReports.com, which is merely an average of a certain sample of users taken at various times.  You might try, for instance:  http://www.dslreports.com/stest

On your phone line, in contrast to your cable, you have a choice of ISPs (whether dialup or DSL), and also of voice providers.  Of course the speed is limited by your distance to the telco central office and so depending on your location you may not be able to reach cable speeds.  Bell Sympatico High Speed is officially a 5 Mb/s service but where I live I don't get anywhere near that.

If you really want high speed and are willing to pay more for it, you can get fibre-to-the-neighbourhood from Bell:  Sympatico Optimax is $70/month for 10 Mb/s or $100/month for 16 Mb/s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As Ryan says, cable is a local monopoly - including Internet service.  You are stuck with Rogers on your cable, unless of course you want to move your residence!  The CRTC did rule back in January 1996 that the cable companies had to give ISPs access to the cable, but they&#8217;ve managed to drag their feet for eleven years despite additional rulings by the CRTC.</p>
<p>Speed varies a lot within any one cable system.  Once you&#8217;ve checked your actual speed, you may well find that it&#8217;s much higher than the number shown at DSLReports.com, which is merely an average of a certain sample of users taken at various times.  You might try, for instance:  <a href="http://www.dslreports.com/stest" rel="nofollow">http://www.dslreports.com/stest</a></p>
<p>On your phone line, in contrast to your cable, you have a choice of ISPs (whether dialup or DSL), and also of voice providers.  Of course the speed is limited by your distance to the telco central office and so depending on your location you may not be able to reach cable speeds.  Bell Sympatico High Speed is officially a 5 Mb/s service but where I live I don&#8217;t get anywhere near that.</p>
<p>If you really want high speed and are willing to pay more for it, you can get fibre-to-the-neighbourhood from Bell:  Sympatico Optimax is $70/month for 10 Mb/s or $100/month for 16 Mb/s.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin Cleaver</title>
		<link>http://martin.cleaver.org/blog/2006/12/30/considering-cogeco-instead-of-rogers/#comment-1146</link>
		<author>Martin Cleaver</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Dec 2006 14:57:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://martin.cleaver.org/blog/2006/12/30/considering-cogeco-instead-of-rogers/#comment-1146</guid>
		<description>Thanks Ryan. Wow. I hadn't considered that there might be no competition at all for cable services! 

I'll call Cogeco. They've not replied to my email.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Ryan. Wow. I hadn&#8217;t considered that there might be no competition at all for cable services! </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll call Cogeco. They&#8217;ve not replied to my email.</p>
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		<title>By: ryan coleman</title>
		<link>http://martin.cleaver.org/blog/2006/12/30/considering-cogeco-instead-of-rogers/#comment-1143</link>
		<author>ryan coleman</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Dec 2006 13:39:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://martin.cleaver.org/blog/2006/12/30/considering-cogeco-instead-of-rogers/#comment-1143</guid>
		<description>I'm fairly sure that cable is still an either/or... you either have Rogers or you have Cogeco in your area but never both.

That said Cogeco is screaming fast. The numbers you posted must have been grabbed on a bad day. I usually get 7-8.5.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m fairly sure that cable is still an either/or&#8230; you either have Rogers or you have Cogeco in your area but never both.</p>
<p>That said Cogeco is screaming fast. The numbers you posted must have been grabbed on a bad day. I usually get 7-8.5.</p>
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