Comments on: The stupidity of Canadian Telcos with their exorbitant data rates http://martin.cleaver.org/blog/2007/04/09/the-stupidity-of-canadian-telcos-with-their-exhoribitant-data-rates/ "Ideas are like Raindrops!" Martin on Web 2.0, Wiki, Conceptmapping, Middleware and Organisations Tue, 14 Oct 2008 14:37:06 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=wordpress-mu-1.2.3-2.2.1 By: angryman http://martin.cleaver.org/blog/2007/04/09/the-stupidity-of-canadian-telcos-with-their-exhoribitant-data-rates/#comment-30835 angryman Sat, 15 Mar 2008 02:40:22 +0000 http://martin.cleaver.org/blog/2007/04/09/the-stupidity-of-canadian-telcos-with-their-exhoribitant-data-rates/#comment-30835 I just got a SMS from Rogers which says that they going to apply long-distance rates on top of my current air time rate to all long-distance incoming calls. This is just ridicules. In Canada we have worse mobile service in the world and this is not a joke. Most developing countries have lower price rate for much better quality mobile service. I will vote for anyone on next election who can promise that we will have the mobile service provider that can deliver high quality service with a reasonable price rate. There is no one country in Europe has so high price rate and so poor quality service!!! I just got a SMS from Rogers which says that they going to apply long-distance rates on top of my current air time rate to all long-distance incoming calls.
This is just ridicules.
In Canada we have worse mobile service in the world and this is not a joke. Most developing countries have lower price rate for much better quality mobile service. I will vote for anyone on next election who can promise that we will have the mobile service provider that can deliver high quality service with a reasonable price rate. There is no one country in Europe has so high price rate and so poor quality service!!!

]]> By: angryman http://martin.cleaver.org/blog/2007/04/09/the-stupidity-of-canadian-telcos-with-their-exhoribitant-data-rates/#comment-30834 angryman Sat, 15 Mar 2008 02:39:24 +0000 http://martin.cleaver.org/blog/2007/04/09/the-stupidity-of-canadian-telcos-with-their-exhoribitant-data-rates/#comment-30834 I just got a SMS from Rogers which says that they going to apply long-distance rates on top of my current air time rate to all long-distance incoming calls. This is just ridicules. In Canada we have worse mobile service in the world and this is not a joke. Most developing countries have lower price rate for much better quality mobile service. I will vote for anyone on next election who can promise that we will have the mobile service provider that can deliver high quality service with a reasonable price rate. There is no one country in Europe has so high price rate and so poor quality!!! I just got a SMS from Rogers which says that they going to apply long-distance rates on top of my current air time rate to all long-distance incoming calls.
This is just ridicules.
In Canada we have worse mobile service in the world and this is not a joke. Most developing countries have lower price rate for much better quality mobile service. I will vote for anyone on next election who can promise that we will have the mobile service provider that can deliver high quality service with a reasonable price rate. There is no one country in Europe has so high price rate and so poor quality!!!

]]> By: Wirelessnorth.ca launches with news of the Opening of the Canadian Telco Market. » Martin Cleaver, masterfully. http://martin.cleaver.org/blog/2007/04/09/the-stupidity-of-canadian-telcos-with-their-exhoribitant-data-rates/#comment-22246 Wirelessnorth.ca launches with news of the Opening of the Canadian Telco Market. » Martin Cleaver, masterfully. Mon, 03 Dec 2007 18:24:37 +0000 http://martin.cleaver.org/blog/2007/04/09/the-stupidity-of-canadian-telcos-with-their-exhoribitant-data-rates/#comment-22246 [...] I’ve been long griping about the Canadian Telcos and their stupid, exorbitant data rates: [...] […] I’ve been long griping about the Canadian Telcos and their stupid, exorbitant data rates: […]

]]> By: Stewart Midwinter http://martin.cleaver.org/blog/2007/04/09/the-stupidity-of-canadian-telcos-with-their-exhoribitant-data-rates/#comment-12191 Stewart Midwinter Tue, 19 Jun 2007 22:53:49 +0000 http://martin.cleaver.org/blog/2007/04/09/the-stupidity-of-canadian-telcos-with-their-exhoribitant-data-rates/#comment-12191 Martin, you say: "Virgin Mobile is rising fast (no data plans yet, but their normal plans are a fraction of the price, and no extra fees or contracts)". New information: Virgin now has two data plans, Pro Surfer and Big Kahuna, providing 2 MB and 5 MB at $5 and $10 respectively, with overages at $10/MB. Read more here: http://virginmobile.ca/site/en/pricesAndFeatures/html/data_paks.html Still, these rates are only moderately usurious instead of the outrageously usurious rates charged by Rogers & Fido. BTW, Virgin is indeed the cheapest phone provider out there. You can get a basic prepaid plan with 100 minutes a month for $10 with no other fees. Martin, you say:

“Virgin Mobile is rising fast (no data plans yet, but their normal plans are a fraction of the price, and no extra fees or contracts)”.

New information: Virgin now has two data plans, Pro Surfer and Big Kahuna, providing 2 MB and 5 MB at $5 and $10 respectively, with overages at $10/MB. Read more here: http://virginmobile.ca/site/en/pricesAndFeatures/html/data_paks.html

Still, these rates are only moderately usurious instead of the outrageously usurious rates charged by Rogers & Fido.

BTW, Virgin is indeed the cheapest phone provider out there. You can get a basic prepaid plan with 100 minutes a month for $10 with no other fees.

]]> By: Martin Cleaver, masterfully. » Blog Archive » Would you be happier on a Mobile Virtual Operator’s network? http://martin.cleaver.org/blog/2007/04/09/the-stupidity-of-canadian-telcos-with-their-exhoribitant-data-rates/#comment-7035 Martin Cleaver, masterfully. » Blog Archive » Would you be happier on a Mobile Virtual Operator’s network? Tue, 17 Apr 2007 14:18:44 +0000 http://martin.cleaver.org/blog/2007/04/09/the-stupidity-of-canadian-telcos-with-their-exhoribitant-data-rates/#comment-7035 [...] Martin Cleaver, masterfully. “Ideas are like Raindrops!” Martin on Web 2.0, Wiki, Conceptmapping, Middleware and Organisations « The stupidity of Canadian Telcos with their exorbitant data rates [...] […] Martin Cleaver, masterfully. “Ideas are like Raindrops!” Martin on Web 2.0, Wiki, Conceptmapping, Middleware and Organisations « The stupidity of Canadian Telcos with their exorbitant data rates […]

]]> By: Martin Cleaver http://martin.cleaver.org/blog/2007/04/09/the-stupidity-of-canadian-telcos-with-their-exhoribitant-data-rates/#comment-6636 Martin Cleaver Wed, 11 Apr 2007 19:36:12 +0000 http://martin.cleaver.org/blog/2007/04/09/the-stupidity-of-canadian-telcos-with-their-exhoribitant-data-rates/#comment-6636 Dan Coombes @ Rogers replied: Martin ... I have forwarded your feedback on ... Thanks, Dan Dan Coombes @ Rogers replied:

Martin … I have forwarded your feedback on … Thanks, Dan

]]> By: scruss http://martin.cleaver.org/blog/2007/04/09/the-stupidity-of-canadian-telcos-with-their-exhoribitant-data-rates/#comment-6588 scruss Tue, 10 Apr 2007 21:28:39 +0000 http://martin.cleaver.org/blog/2007/04/09/the-stupidity-of-canadian-telcos-with-their-exhoribitant-data-rates/#comment-6588 Hmm, I get unlimited data from Telus for about $80 a month. It could be that I'm on some neato corporate plan, though. Hmm, I get unlimited data from Telus for about $80 a month. It could be that I’m on some neato corporate plan, though.

]]> By: Martin Cleaver http://martin.cleaver.org/blog/2007/04/09/the-stupidity-of-canadian-telcos-with-their-exhoribitant-data-rates/#comment-6582 Martin Cleaver Tue, 10 Apr 2007 19:02:49 +0000 http://martin.cleaver.org/blog/2007/04/09/the-stupidity-of-canadian-telcos-with-their-exhoribitant-data-rates/#comment-6582 Here's the letter I emailed to Rogers investor relations: Dear Rogers Investor Relations: As an investor and customer at Rogers, I am concerned that the opportunity to serve the Canadian mobile data market is hugely under exploited. Rogers could make a lot more money by serving a larger market at a lower price than fewer customers at a high price. Like many I know, I turned off the data on my wireless account rather than feel swindled by today's pricing. Also, there is a risk that this issue could get the attention of the Canadian Government - regulatory control is not in investor's interests. There is a discussion about http://www.thomaspurves.com/2007/04/09/canada-worse-than-3rd-world-countries-when-it-comes-to-mobile-data-access/ at this location: http://digg.com/tech_news/Canada_Worse_than_3rd_World_Countries_when_it_comes_to_Mobile_Data_Access Regards, Martin -- Martin@Cleaver.org M.Sc. MBA Here’s the letter I emailed to Rogers investor relations:

Dear Rogers Investor Relations:

As an investor and customer at Rogers, I am concerned that the opportunity to serve the Canadian mobile data market is hugely under exploited. Rogers could make a lot more money by serving a larger market at a lower price than fewer customers at a high price.

Like many I know, I turned off the data on my wireless account rather than feel swindled by today’s pricing.

Also, there is a risk that this issue could get the attention of the Canadian Government - regulatory control is not in investor’s interests.

There is a discussion about http://www.thomaspurves.com/2007/04/09/canada-worse-than-3rd-world-countries-when-it-comes-to-mobile-data-access/
at this location:
http://digg.com/tech_news/Canada_Worse_than_3rd_World_Countries_when_it_comes_to_Mobile_Data_Access

Regards,
Martin
–
Martin@Cleaver.org M.Sc. MBA

]]> By: Martin Cleaver http://martin.cleaver.org/blog/2007/04/09/the-stupidity-of-canadian-telcos-with-their-exhoribitant-data-rates/#comment-6580 Martin Cleaver Tue, 10 Apr 2007 18:27:24 +0000 http://martin.cleaver.org/blog/2007/04/09/the-stupidity-of-canadian-telcos-with-their-exhoribitant-data-rates/#comment-6580 <a href="http://digg.com/tech_news/Canada_Worse_than_3rd_World_Countries_when_it_comes_to_Mobile_Data_Access#c6088283" rel="nofollow">Ok. People.</a> Once you have pestered customer support, ask investor relations. If you read my posting you'll realise why the Telcos would make more money by charging less. So not charging less is nothing short of bad strategy. Complain to investor relations: - ROGERS: http://www.shoprogers.com/investorrelations/shareholder_contactinfo.asp - BELL: http://www.bce.ca/en/contact/#investor_relatio - TELUS: http://about.telus.com/investors/en/ Ok. People. Once you have pestered customer support, ask investor relations. If you read my posting you’ll realise why the Telcos would make more money by charging less.

So not charging less is nothing short of bad strategy. Complain to investor relations:

- ROGERS:
http://www.shoprogers.com/investorrelations/shareholder_contactinfo.asp
- BELL: http://www.bce.ca/en/contact/#investor_relatio
- TELUS: http://about.telus.com/investors/en/

]]> By: Derrick http://martin.cleaver.org/blog/2007/04/09/the-stupidity-of-canadian-telcos-with-their-exhoribitant-data-rates/#comment-6579 Derrick Tue, 10 Apr 2007 18:15:51 +0000 http://martin.cleaver.org/blog/2007/04/09/the-stupidity-of-canadian-telcos-with-their-exhoribitant-data-rates/#comment-6579 Sent Telus an email in disgust of these Data rates. Here's the response: "Thank you for your e-mail and feedback regarding our data plans. We are happy to assist you. TELUS is continually developing and changing our rate plans and data plans. We cannot advise if the plan prices will be changed, but can confirm that our plans are comparable in the competitive Canadian market. We appreciate your taking the time to contact us. " Lame. Sent Telus an email in disgust of these Data rates. Here’s the response:

“Thank you for your e-mail and feedback regarding our data plans. We are happy to assist you.

TELUS is continually developing and changing our rate plans and data plans. We cannot advise if the plan prices will be changed, but can confirm that our plans are comparable in the competitive Canadian market.

We appreciate your taking the time to contact us. ”

Lame.

]]> By: Chris http://martin.cleaver.org/blog/2007/04/09/the-stupidity-of-canadian-telcos-with-their-exhoribitant-data-rates/#comment-6578 Chris Tue, 10 Apr 2007 18:11:21 +0000 http://martin.cleaver.org/blog/2007/04/09/the-stupidity-of-canadian-telcos-with-their-exhoribitant-data-rates/#comment-6578 I am glad to see someone is finally making a fuss about this. Nothing pisses me off more then having to pay inflated prices for a service. Now if we could only get this this kind of attention for the second most important cash grab, bank ATM fee's. I am glad to see someone is finally making a fuss about this. Nothing pisses me off more then having to pay inflated prices for a service.

Now if we could only get this this kind of attention for the second most important cash grab, bank ATM fee’s.

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